County Chairmen's Meeting

Staverton Park, Daventry

26/27 September 2003

 

 

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Chairman John Clark and Secretary Bob White attended the meeting of the County, District and National Branch Chairmen at Staverton Park, Daventry, on 26 and 27 September.  This was the first occasion when County, District and National Branch Secretaries were invited to the seminar.

The weekend began with a dinner during the Friday evening  and gave both of us the opportunity to get to know our opposite numbers throughout the country.  As usual, the question "What is Garat's HaY? was asked.  An article will be sent to the Legion magazine in the near future to answer this query.  It was noteworthy that present at the seminar were two other Branch members - John Hawthornthwaite, National Vice Chairman (NVC), and Peter Westwell, County Secretary, Shropshire.

The programme was as follows:

  • Opening Address by the National Chairman, Ian Cannell.

The Chairman stated that this would be his last opportunity to chair this meeting as he had only 8 months to serve during his tenure as National Chairman.  He referred to the failure to obtain the new category of member at National Conference and said that he had given a presentation just after the decision had been made.  He was informed that, if he had made such a presentation prior to the decision having been me, it would probably have been passed.  However he might had been accused of prejudicing the result.  Damned if he did, and damned if he didn't.....  He stated that the next Chairman, subject to vote, would be John Hawtornthwaite, but at this time no-one had put hi name forward for the post of National Vice Chairman .  The Chairman talked about the attributes required for the NVC, and asked members to bear in mind any applicant's past achievements when voting for him.

  • Address by the Secretary General (SG), Ian Townsend.

The SG spoke on 5 points as follows

1.        Somerset Legion House

 A £15m refurbishment programme was underway.  Somerset Legion House is due to be finished by 2006 when the original building will be sold for a considerable sum.  Galanos House has been completed.  

 

2.        National Memorial Arboretum (NMA)

The Legion has looked at taking on responsibility.  There is no capital cost as the NMA has been granted to us.  However operational funding will have to be obtained.  There has been the promise of £250,000 per year for three years from HM Treasury.  The new Armed Forces memorial will be built here to commemorate those who fell in conflicts outwith the two World Wars.

 

3.        HR Issues

a.   We must deal with volunteers and staff alike.  There had been a recent incident, not in the Legion, where a volunteer had bullied a member of staff.  This staff member took the organisation and Chairman to a tribunal where the organisation was fined £65,000 and the Chairman himself had to pay £7,000 in compensation.

b.   There are two types of trustees in the Legion - National Council who remain solely responsible to the Charity Commissioners and Local trustees who are responsible to the national Council.

4.        Trusteeship

The SG listed the election criteria for trustees such as management and financial experience; specific knowledge, commitment, business and other interests.  The SG went on to describe the roles and duties of trustees.

5.        TLF

This section was split into the following as an introduction to the following presentation:

          Background
          Where are we?
          Where are we going?
  • Presentation "TLF - Where are We?" by Andrew Baines, TLF Programme Manager.  This was followed by a discussion period.

There were two basic criteria - 1) Have to consult members  2) Must be staged.

During 2003 12 projects have been undertaken as follows:

Corporate Governance
Central Data & Subscriptions
Membership Field Project
General Fund
Purpose of Membership
Legion Magazine
Membership Image & Publicity
|National Branches
Membership Benefits
Women's Section
Clubs
Links with ex-Service Associations
A new range of recruiting materials will soon be available.  A discussion period followed with ideas on how to recruit new members, status of clubs.
  • Presentation "The Legion's Parliamentary Links" by Jeremy Lillies, Head of Public Affairs.

There has been a structured approach since 1996 with the aim to influence Government policy and/or public opinion with regards to ex-servicemen and women.

New issues  are:

D Day 2004 - 60th Anniversary
War Pensions Burden of Proof
Gulf War Illnesses
Disregard of War and War Widows Pensions when assessing benefits.

|The department has access to many specialised databases and also the internet in carrying out their daily business.  There are three Parliamentary Advisers, one from each of the 3 main parties formally appointed from the House of Commons, and also in the House of Lords on a less formal basis.

Each year an Open Day is held in Parliament where approximately 100 MPs are hosted by senior staff members.  Lunches are also held with MPs who could carry forward our ideas.  In conclusion, the Legion is a campaigning organisation.

  • Presentation "Welfare Strategy Review by Terry English, Director of Welfare. (Followed by discussion period).
  • Presentation "Future Funding of Welfare Programmes" by Russell Thompson, Director of Fundraising and Marketing.
  • Open Forum - Questions raised by Chairmen and Secretaries

North Spain complained about the waste of money in forwarding Poppy material by courier rather than by a suggested cheaper route.

Mention of ANZUK biscuits on sale in Sainsburys at 99pence.  4% is donated to the Legion.

The effectiveness of Community Fund Raisers

Can Gift Aid forms be completed on entrance tickets?  This happens at London Zoo, Hampton Court. It was thought not as it could only apply to voluntary donations.  Russell Thompson will investigate.

Warwickshire gave a long brief on the possibility of using a "Poppy Pete" cartoon and other ideas to attract the youth element.

Suffolk raised points on County Recruiting Officers and County Holding branches.

South & West Yorkshire  and Cornwall raised points on clubs.

S & W Yorks asked "What are the advantages of being a Legion member" - Peter Henderson, Head of Membership replied.

Warwickshire suggested that we make more use of more recent conflicts during Remembrancetide.

Derby complained that mail was being sent through the CFO rather than to County Secretary.

West Glamorgan raised the subject of sports competitions and their being funded by the Legion.

Gloucester raised the subject of Field Staff workload.

Norfolk raised the matter of Charter Motion Nr 2 having been lost at national Conference.

Warwickshire raised the subject of lost opportunities and evaluating volunteers.

Cambridgeshire brought up the matter of Caseworkers and CFO.

 

  • Chairman's Open Forum

John Clark had complained to the NVC that no-one seemed to have heard of Garat's HaY.  This bore results because the National Chairman asked Head of Membership to say a few points on National Branches.  Peter Henderson in turn asked Roger Noyes, Chairman of St James' National Branch to expand on the subject.  Your chairman did have a couple of points to say on the matter.  unfortunately we could have  said more, but at least all the Count and District Chairmen and Secretaries cannot say that they have not heard of National Branches.

The National Chairman thanked all members present and closed the meeting.

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